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  Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

  by okage in

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  i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

  to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

  but that's not our goal.

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  It seems to me the ultimate goal would be, to have the society put in a very public and embarrassing situation with regard to their own shunning policies.

  Would it be possible to orchestrate an amnesty -under which people could leave the WT without repurcussions during a given week, or month ?

  Think of the negative publicity if the society refused! and then the negative publicityagain if, even after the letter writing, a class action suit and an amnesty situation, they still plowed ahead and began the Nazi process of disfellowshipping all those, who had just sought religious freedom from them - by private letter writing, by seeking court assistanced annullments and finally physically walking out the door.

  Like the civil rights struggle in the 50-60s - somewhere along the line - others have to take notice that freedoms are at stake and people are being persecutedif not hated by a religious group - how embarrassing to be that group
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  Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

  by okage in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

  to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

  but that's not our goal.

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  I think that the proper letter writing strategy is an excellent - done exactly as their own campaign was with Malawi Let the vile dictator know what you think and how he looks to the rest of the world - and sink them in paperwork just for fun - also don't forget to ask a theocratic question ot two - just to see if you get a reply. hehe

  And yes, I wrote to the stupid and arrogant Hastings Banda just like the rest of you did). I'll write a helluvalot more than once this time.

  Letters especially when shared with your local newspaper have great impact - I always read the letters from our local papers because they are, after all our own nieghbours expressing themselves . Take advantage of free expression-which the wt hates . and highlite the issue of freedom of religion - another issue the wt hates.

  I feel the letters should be formatted here by those with the skills and then personalized by all of us for our own purposes.

  What about thousands and thousands of people filing, all within a given time, seeking the courts assistance to have our baptisms annulled?

  Would this force a class action suits and get that is as aprecedent for freenom of religion? Band on the run- any thoughts ? Class action would also liberate all those persecuted for life as apostates. (The society keeps your DF card and marks on it when you die!)
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  Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

  by okage in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

  to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

  but that's not our goal.

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  okage - thank you, thank you for casting your bread on our waters.

  My one frustration, in the year or so I've been here,is that we are all, (at least I am) full of talk and no actions.

  I am certainly willing to act on a well orchestrated, multi-pronged assault that brings well deserved disgrace on that filthy organisation, that thinks I don't desrve to see my grandkids.

  A little girl named Rosa Parks changed American history, by carefully planning a small, justifiable act that ignited the unity and recaptured the rights and dignity of a whole society.

  If thousands of us with the talent, knowledge and passion displayed in this (and other forums) around the world can't rock the Watchtowers delusional little world - then we are the ones who deserve the disgrace.

  More later - GfG
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  Why WTBTS Disfellowshipping Works...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  i just wanted to share with you, briefly, what i have come to understand as to why disfellowshipping by the wtbts works... why it can continue being fomented as it is.

  i realize there are pages and pages of studies regarding cults and cult mindsets, etc., but i am not going to inundate you with such but rather try to keep this simple.

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  LisaRose and Tec -

  If friends like you had served as 'ministers' at my congregation, I would have attended (gladly) my judicial hearings.

  My family may have been spared a lifetime of anger and frustration.

  GfG
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  Who would you most like to meet from this board and why?

  by usualusername in

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  who would you most like to meet from this board and why?.

  i would love to by danmera dinner.

  she rocks!.

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  wasblind - her wit and wisdom makes me laugh out LOUD -unless 'Bessie' was there, then I wouldn't laugh...much
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  Boundary Changes for Congregations and Secrecy

  by Vienna Angelika in

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  right now the congregations in winnipeg are undergoing major boundary changes which will be put in action at the beginning of february.

  our congregation is supposed to find out today but i decided to ask some people i knew who went the previous meeting if we were going to be put together with the people at our old congregation who are shunning me.

  even though they knew, they refused to tell me because "the society" told them not to tell us.

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  Hello Vienna Angelika -

  Swapping out halls and territories presents a golden opportunity, to dodge the hate and disappear.
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  I've made an appointment to see the head teacher about God and creation

  by not bitter in

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  a bit of background.

  my 6 year old talks about god an awful lot.

  well more than i'm comfortable with.

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  Hello not bitter -

  No need to worry or intervene at all.

  Your little one is having a wonderful time with her imagination- the greatest teaching aid EVER.

  Soon she'll race back to you with the news that '..some people don't believe in god!!' - more things that need to be imagined upon.

  Keep her path to your ears always open -she's already lucky to have a mom who cares so much.
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  Does fear of death equate to need for God?

  by Monsieur in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  read a very interesting opinion article on cnn last night.

  "why i raise my kids without god".. .

  the writer aluded to the fear of the possibility of one's life ending forever (along with our beloved children's).

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  Being raised on a farm has been a real asset.

  As a little kid,helping with the livestock, you witness diverse and amazing cycles of life and death.

  I doubt if many farm kids have to enquire as to were babies come from!

  And so many ways to die - and certainly no guarantes that we'll all live long, or die old and tired like grandma or the family dogs.

  Absolutely no necessity nor insinuation of an afterlife in the natural world, but what a joy to live our part - passing the love and preparations of our ancestors on to bless our children and theirs...

  Works perfectly.
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  It would be a lovely letter

  by Defianttruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  letter from the governing body.. .

  dear brothers due to our failed attempts of interrupting scripture and completely false, multiple prophecies, we as the governing body are going to implement a few new changes to god's earthly organization.. .

  we are not god's earthly organization.

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  Just imagine the joy, of liberating 7 million souls with just one letter.
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  this world is a reflection of you

  by ballistic in

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  2. friends

  i was recently on holiday aka "vacation" on a beautiful island, and turned a corner on a cliff top to see a wall with graffitti on it (ironically), "this world is a reflection of you - take care what you do with it.

  " or words to that effect.

  so i got thinking it's about dropping litter and stuff.

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  Ballistic

  Everyone who is emotionally/spiritually well and educated, can't help but appreciate and value our total dependence, on the beautiful planet we share with so many other amazing forms of life.

  I've alway been amazed how cultures and the people individually, long for the unique beauty of their native regions. on rocks by the oceans, vast flat prairies, mountainous, endless desert, even the polar ice expanses, all such places are the hearts desire of those that lived and were nurtured there. I feel reassured and content wherever in the world I see crops and livestock and trees because, I was raised on a farm and understand fully how all of mankind benefits from that particular enterprise.

  We don't need any megalomanic dieties threatening to destroy it, or insane militarists to poison and 'scorch the earth' , nor the insatiably greedy pricks so eager to cut down, level, dig up, pollute and 'transform to profit' every earthly resource possible in their short lifetimes.

  I feel that education, cooperation and appreciation are the keys to the only future we can envision.